Web. about scrafty i have already accepted that maybe its influence has been overestimated and maybe the big success i had using the said pokemon had been cause certain circumstances allowed to do so and that's why this thread is made so everyone can share their opinion so the viability rankings become as accurately representative as they possibly can be. Make your posts based off of experience and research, not off of emotion. RULES. ago. de. Web. If you try to compare Metagross's utility in UU with Garchomp's in OU or Mienfoo in LC you will realize Metagross falls way behind those two. I just talked about dd set btw, Bulk up is viable but sucks in general if you ask me. A viability thread has as purpose to put Pokmon into 'ranks', by lack of a better term. S TIER The Best Pokemon to use in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. Bulk up Scrafty is trickier but as you said, the tier shifted to more offensive and therefore that set has become less effective. It does exploit lanturn which people tend to run a lot as their only special defensive wall but snorlax and gigalith still stop it.. and especially snorlax is still a very good pokemon in the tier. Web. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!". However, it has a decent niche on stall and balance teams as a good spinblocker, that can also block fog as well. Web. Also, sun should be somewhere on this list (until unless all of you are considering tiering action against sun, and are preemptively leaving it off the VR, in which case I want to hear why Uxie should be banned). Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. A TIER. Pokmon Scarlet Violet stats for OverUsed format. 7 mo. Also, althoughRotom H is dope, its not a S mon, I think A+ is fine. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Web. 1415 Gliscor. The moderators of this forum are Quite Quiet, Amaranth, august, Booty, Finchinator, Heroic Troller, Merritt, Star. You also get psybeam at kadabra at level 16 and if you're trading can literally get an alakazam at level 16. It's great, sure, but I don't see it to be better than Blastoise, Mew, or Snorlax to where it deserves its own tier. And under no circumstances should any of them be facing off against Garchomp, even with, as you say, a 70BP Hidden Power Ice (good luck getting that, too!). They can also bring it in safely by using U-turn against Pokemon like Galarian Slowking and Excadrill in the former&x27;s case, or by using Explosion in the latter&x27;s case. Web. In the case of the latter, Piplup and Prinplup are both pretty horrid. I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Web. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Web. High usage has very minimal correlation with brokenness. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. No denying that. These discussions will influence future updates to the rankings. 1415 Gliscor. Yeah it can't switch in on + 2 Zam/Gengar, but you know what can't either? -Gastrodon can maybe be a B tier mon but its outclassed by lanturn as a volt stopper special defensively cause rotom can exploit much easier with hp grass and empoleon runs grass knot. Would make an argument about Swellow being ranked as a Guts user considering Ursaring is ranked probably because of Quick Feet right?, but thats just my biases showing. tbf usage statistics dont represent either super accurately since light clay is banned in uu and snow warning keeps getting banned in the tiers arcto drops to . An S mon simply isnt stopped coldly by the 2 most used pokes in the tier (rotom-h and mandi). Smeargle Failure to follow these rules after warning(s) will result in an infraction or possibly a ban depending on the severity of the offenses. Web. The world is ending. B Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the UU metagame. It doesnt seem to me that the 2 pokemons coldly stop metagross. Moves, EVs, and more for pokemon like Scizor, Clefable and Garchomp. I absolutely love these viability rankings for every game and I'm a huge lurker of them. We all know that UU is home to many bulky Waters and Steels that make balance cores nearly unbreakable. Do not mistake the correlation between usage and viability as stronger than it actually is. Rotom-heat is a monster in UU, with specs this mon can destroy everything(maybe): 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bronzong: 420-494 (124.2 - 146.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO I am sorry but I do have to disagree with this, I'll go over your points one by one to show why I think it should stay unranked. I've been wanting to write up this post since like Friday but I've been going out everyday and coming home at midnight. I'm glad to see Lickilicky in A too, as it doesn't tend to get the respect that it deserves. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. Rock Slide Stone Edge. Coverage-wise, Fighting / Rock / Ground / Filler is pretty much everything it needs. Type GroundFlying. Web. Theinitial list bellow was made in collaboration with Umbramol. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits.". And last, venomoth. This metagame is led by Kaede and a council of experienced players. Welcome to the BDSP OU Viability Ranking thread. At the end of every turn, holder restores 116 of its max HP. Web. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. Its base 105 with EVs and training for the champion vs base 120 with neutral nature and no EVs available. Free plan; Personal: $4 a month; Premium: $8 a month feel free to ask questions! Oh also, reminder to not assume Home will allow transfers into BDSP- all official statements about Home connectivity thus far have only mentioned transferring from BDSP to Home. UiHJh [AGZMEN] Ubers is the most inclusive of Smogon 's tiers, allowing the use of any Pokmon species. S Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. Fight me. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. -Dusclops while a very good defensive wall in this current meta of volt turn and wallbreakers struggles to fullfill its role because without reliable recovery apart from rest which makes it a set up bait struggles to maintain its health throughout the game and thats why B tier is justified. As for Metagross it can tank a large amount of the metagame and retaliate in return,it also has a plethora of sets it can run effectively: Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons while helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. Also, there will be a C+ and a C in our VR now as several pokemon find themselves sitting there to warrant a split. Web. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. About Uu Viability Smogon. I've used the line twice, once on Diamond (I went through two Sinnoh test runs on Diamond and Pearl, big mistake) and once on Platinum, and it died in the mid-game on both occasions. Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons which helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. . Reply. Bisharp is a great anti-offense pokemon which exploits the best wall in UU(mandibuzz) and most other walls struggle to stop it aswell. Web. Def stats. However I believe it deserves to be ranked as it does at least have a decent niche in the meta game on stall which is an amazing archetype at the moment. I agree with most of this initial VR but to me there is one mon that is pretty out of place. Alright so I've looked through your comments and would like opinions on these potential changes: AddingExeggutor and Victreebel to B-rank. You can definitely pull off a sweep with it and has rapid spin utility so maybe it could move up. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential. RULES. Web. And be a good annoyer with Wisp + Knock off. Personally i could say that yes, maybe it is B tier and not B-. It has a permanent ladder on Pokmon Showdown. As a council, we. Resource - BDSP OU Sample Teams Smogon Forums The moderators of this forum are Eve, 6Roggenrolas, and Lalaya . These discussions will influence future updates to the rankings. Also I don't know which pokemons you consider top 15 but here is a very interesting calc i found on one of the top UU threats. Remember you will likely be training to level 60 or so. not having a knock absorber? Web. For more information about the metagame, such as the viability rankings and speed tiers, go here. What Rapidash CAN do is attack Garchomp before it can move, which is very important when the Pokmon in question is infamous for being a butcher. Question: I haven't played much BDSP yet, but I used to play DPP on Shoddy back in the day. This is by no means discouraging other suggestions, I just feel these may be a bit more controversial and would like for us to agree on where we should place these first. You must log in or register to reply here. Both Alakazam and Lucario also have other counters that are more viable team options. Edit: Sorry, my post got cut short. -Metagross i commented about in the previous comment.. look above.. i believe people have yet to catch up on hoe powerful it is. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. It was a UU mon, but it was banned to ubers because although it wasn't used that often, it was way too strong when it was used. And lastly benefiting off intimidate is amazing. I haven't used Kecleon ever, and I have never looked into it: so I will not be commenting on it. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. It's easy! Anyways I need to stop procrastinating and actually update these rankings with the Heracross ban and Celebi's arrival. I think those reasons justify A- for both. The rules of the Nuzlocke Forums still apply here. A short or maybe not-so-short video series talking about SM UU on Smogon with your host King UU. You can get Abra earlier, it's literally stronger and faster, you can get Abra through a super early trade for machop (worth it, after roarke at least) which gets it a +Spa Nature and makes it level boost faster (yeah yeah it's quiet so minus speed, growing up fast imo compensates for this). The top of the list I mostly agree with, especially the mons in the S-A+ range. like tran couldn't care less about item it can actually run anything other than lefties, like pherb or charcoal and you're getting roasted, for example, if you knock them, you don't prevent any sort of passive action from them (rocks, twave, heal); if you taunt, you're getting magmastormed or moonblasted in the face and either way it's a good trade depending on the situation, im still not sure what you're gonna do when you're done knocking items but w/e arguably something like scizor gets momentum better, and honestly most of the time you can even get away with a burned scizor if all it needs to do is to grab momentum, we literally have a shedstall in the samples that also is a testimony of how Shedinja beats common Pokmon like Latios, Scizor, Breloom, Azumarill, Manaphy and the list can go on and on and I already said more than what Sableye currently *CHECKS*, because Sableye can't enter on ANYTHING. Web. Hi, i would like to nominate Onix to D tier. You must log in or register to reply here. Standard: $4.99 a month (Beginner plan + Standard website builder), Premium: $7.48 a month (Beginner plan + Premium website builder), Connect Domain: $5 a month (not available in the US, unfortunately), Shared Starter: $6.99 a month (1 website), Shared Unlimited: $12.99 a month (unlimited websites). In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokmon (this implies that the Pokmon is obtainable before the player has defeated the Elite Four and Champion) into tiers. Single use. Single use. ago. Smogon now has viability rankings up for UU . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Dubbed the Flycatcher Pokmon, Victreebel is based on the real-world pitcher plants, which attract prey into their pitfall traps with sweet smells, only to digest them slowly once they've fallen into their inescapable doom. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Earthquake. qz. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO, Can you calc with sun? ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Chople Berry. 252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Mandibuzz: 109-129 (50.2 - 59.4%) -- 77% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, 252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Rotom-Heat: 90-107 (57.3 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. Staraptor should not be S rank. A bulky set sounds like it would easily exacerbate these matchups and would look to be outclassed by many Defog users and even Donphan. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will be deleted and infracted if it is a repeat issue. Web. It's very good, but not exactly gamebreaking, moreso on Platinum, an extremely brutal Nuzlocke. Pokemon Scarlet Violet Pokemon team builder for Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl OU. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Pokemon Scarlet Violet Pokemon team builder for Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl OU. Halves damage taken from a supereffective Fighting-type attack. 1- Coba berry scrafty can'tset up on crobat, and for some reason I didn't mention crobat as a mon that comes in on an already +1 scrafty. If the Pokemon in this rank have any flaws, those flaws are thoroughly mitigated by their substantial strengths." 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